Isn’t She Beautiful (5)
- Posted by scott on January 23rd, 2007 filed in conversatio, marshill, isn't she beautiful
This morning’s session, “Thoughts on heaven, hell, sin, judgment, who’s in, who’s out, and the end of the world as we know it,” is having a 10-minute break. My battery is holding out, so I’ll post a couple notes that I’ve typed up.
The first hour of the talk unpacked the problematic nature of developing a unified picture of salvation in the New Testament. Some passages: Luke 7:1-10, Luke 18:9, Luke 23, John 3, Matt 10:22, and others. Core idea: To be saved, is there something that one has to be? To believe? To do? What one says they will do? Something someone else does? Having the right friends? Etc.
Rob unpacked two ways of understanding theology with regard to the world to come:
Destination:
Bell suggests that this is the majority opinion within Christianity today. “If you’re in, you’ve arrived; if you’re out, you’re out for good and you probably deserve it.”
Journey:
Bell argues that scriptures work from a “journey” understanding. Some are saved, but remain incredibly selfish. It’s possible to be born again and redeemed, but callous and indifferent to the pain of the world. He suggests that Jesus wants to save humanity from this indifference.
Within a “journey understanding,” there are moments of arrival, of awakening, of awareness, of trust along the way. There are also moments where life is out of control, unmanageable, and where one recognizes that hope only lies in the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross, who transforms darkness and shortcomings into something beautiful.
More later.
Isn’t She Beautiful (5)
- Posted by scott on January 23rd, 2007 filed in conversatio, marshill, isn't she beautiful
This morning’s session, “Thoughts on heaven, hell, sin, judgment, who’s in, who’s out, and the end of the world as we know it,” is having a 10-minute break. My battery is holding out, so I’ll post a couple notes that I’ve typed up.
The first hour of the talk unpacked the problematic nature of developing a unified picture of salvation in the New Testament. Some passages: Luke 7:1-10, Luke 18:9, Luke 23, John 3, Matt 10:22, and others. Core idea: To be saved, is there something that one has to be? To believe? To do? What one says they will do? Something someone else does? Having the right friends? Etc.
Rob unpacked two ways of understanding theology with regard to the world to come:
Destination:
Bell suggests that this is the majority opinion within Christianity today. “If you’re in, you’ve arrived; if you’re out, you’re out for good and you probably deserve it.”
Journey:
Bell argues that scriptures work from a “journey” understanding. Some are saved, but remain incredibly selfish. It’s possible to be born again and redeemed, but callous and indifferent to the pain of the world. He suggests that Jesus wants to save humanity from this indifference.
Within a “journey understanding,” there are moments of arrival, of awakening, of awareness, of trust along the way. There are also moments where life is out of control, unmanageable, and where one recognizes that hope only lies in the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross, who transforms darkness and shortcomings into something beautiful.
More later.

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